- It takes a nation of millions…
Some throwbacks and insight into how this conversation came to be. Listen here for a laugh or if you’re interested in knowing if Ant and Don have similar music tastes
- TEDx? Yeah, Which one?
The talk in question wasn’t Don’s first rodeo with TEDx. Hear how he ended up on the stage at Purdue and his thoughts on ‘vanity metrics’
- Don Wettrick, Origins.
It certainly takes a specific kind of person to be a teacher. Fast forward to hear how some solid advice from his dad led Don to being a different kind of teacher
- The Worst Time To Run A Non-Profit
Are other states pale in comparison to Indiana when it comes to student pitching competitions? Slide here to find out how Don’s class was built around the idea of innovation and the promotion of entrepreneurship
- Deep Thoughts
What’s the quickest route to reaping a life worth living? Listen in to gain some of the best final thoughts we’ve heard to date, advice on how to live without regret, as well as where you can find some of the awesome humans that have learned under Mr. Wettrick
Don Wettrick 0:07
What is up?
Ant Blair 0:08
What’s up man?! Technology!
Don Wettrick 0:13
So I like oh the By the way, nice background.
Ant Blair 0:17
Oh, appreciate that
Don Wettrick 0:19
So ,like on the pod the app then you don’t necessarily get video then correct. It’s just audio?
Ant Blair 0:26
Don Wettrick 0:27
Ant Blair 0:27
Yeah, you know I really like using Zoom for this. The struggle has been people’s familiarity
Don Wettrick 0:37
Oh yeah well tell you what post COVID people should know zoom a lot better they’ve been killing it
Ant Blair 0:44
Don Wettrick 0:45
Killing it so
Ant Blair 0:47
Who Who would have guessed to have invested some money into Zoom stock like in December or November
Don Wettrick 0:55
And who would have thought that Google still hasn’t updated meets or Google Hangouts to record. Like there’s nothing to buy or install. Get your head out of your ass boys
Ant Blair 1:08
Thatthought but who no one can predict how things pan out. Nope, nope, nope, nope. me my a my MySpace page fire I don’t know about yours
Don Wettrick 1:21
Well my Zynga page is even better so I’m gonna I’m gonna I’m gonna up you your your MySpace and I’m gonna raise you Zynga
Ant Blair 1:29
oh wow okay, it’s like that we gon start out like that
Don Wettrick 1:33
I can kick it oldscool. I can kick it old school by the way nice a yeah boy! Again. If we want to talk some Public Enemy for a while. I can go deep. I can go deep. We can we can start with yo bum rush the show which is great. But then then we got a nation of millions which is still their masterpiece. I’m not going to even hear anything else. nation of millions is still the masterpiece. Love Yo BUm Rush The Show but Nations of Millions. Mm hmm.
Ant Blair 2:07
And you want to know what’s really interesting about that? Is that whole Rick Rubin phenomena throughout the whole Def Jam.
Don Wettrick 2:14
Thank you stay Thank you. Thank you. I like actually there was a there was a podcast called revisionist history it’s by the guy that writes all the good books. Shoot. No he’s gonna allude anyway he did a show with Rick. Basically how important he is to muse. Malcolm Gladwell is like, Oh, yeah, well, yeah. And he had this awesome interview cuz Rick doesn’t do interviews. He’s a very solitary person anyway. Yes. We’re gonna be just fine. Like there are some producers that are so iconic and a lot of people don’t like anything produced by the dust brothers. Sounds amazing. Anything produced Buy Timberland. Sounds amazing. X ray. Anything produced by Rick is Johnny Cash. I mean like he anyway. Anyway, yeah me sir.
Ant Blair 3:13
Good to meet you too. I’ve heard. I feel like I already know you and this brief conversation. I feel like I’ve known you forever, forever Forever now. You haven’t. And Riley you had a really big impact on their lives going through school and they they talked you up, man, like something to behold. So you you had a great impact on them, man. So be proud of that
young impressionable minds can be deceived, but I’ll take it. I’ll take it. I’ll take it. Now. They’re both good. I love them both.
Yeah, man. I tell you what was school wasn’t meant for those creative odds. Do you want to touch on your TEDx talk? I watched it TEDx talk. I thought it was great. I coincidentally there was a friend of mine who did a TEDx Bloomington. And I helped him prepare for that. We were both in Toastmasters. And then we did the pitch and he went through that whole thing. Did not know, the world of TEDx worked like it works. curious as to how you got that opportunity, what that experience was like for you and what happened after you gave that talk.
Don Wettrick 4:31
So I’ve got to ask, because and I’m not saying this to like, oh, which one but which one? I’ve done two. I’ve got one. That’s not that. The most recent one at Purdue.
Ant Blair 4:42
Yes. Yeah, yeah, my bad. I didn’t know you was double deucin’ it.
Don Wettrick 4:48
Yeah. Well, the other one, the video quality Anyway, let’s not talk about that one. Um, how did I get invited um, they had scouts in Guess I had spoken. It was a student ran thing at Purdue, and I do a fair amount of speaking. Especially after I wrote the book or a book. And I guess somebody somewhere had seen me and they’re like, Hey, you know, we’re, you know, education is always cool to talk about. So this guy is fairly outspoken, and quite frankly, in my humble opinion, they’re also like, plus, we probably don’t have to pay for his Air Flight here. He can drive here. So I think it’s as a discount to be honest.
Ant Blair 5:31
Yeah fuck that per diem life,
Don Wettrick 5:33
Right, right, right. That guy can just drive here. Yeah, fly here. Um, what was it like during and after? I mean, like, I liked it, the energy in the room. I’m not happy with them because they didn’t let me know. And it sat there for six days. Um, YouTube is weird. If you jump on it, the algorithm pushes you up. And so if you hit the ground running with YouTube, Especially on a TEDx, it grows on its own. There was a couple that as soon as it hit, they were promoting it. And they have thousands of views. Right now I have hundreds of views. Because it sat there for a week, and I didn’t know it.
Ant Blair 6:15
Yeah, I was kind of surprised about that, when I saw that I said, man I can’t believe this talk doesn’t have more views
Don Wettrick 6:21
It’s and it’s, I’m telling you, YouTube is its own art form, if you really.
Ant Blair 6:26
You got that right
Don Wettrick 6:28
So yeah, I was a little nervous, like, really, because the weird thing is, and I’m not saying this to make myself feel good. They had a an intermission, and they’re like, hey, if you want to talk to some of the speakers, I killed it. And I had a crowd of people. And one last follow up questions and yeah, so like, based on the the post results, mine went over really well, based on the YouTube results. Okay, so I mean, like, but ultimately that’s a vanity metric and it’s an ego thing because what does it do?
Ant Blair 7:00
Don Wettrick 7:02
Right? I mean, because what does it do? I can now put on my vanity biome a two time TEDx speaker. And, and I’ll probably break down the thing. I think I have to get permission, but I’ll break down a couple of clips, and I’ll reuse them. Right? Right now no one cares. Now, if you can, like get 20 million, like, literally, the difference between getting 2000 views and getting 18 you know, over 2 million views is not is negligible. Once you start getting 10 million and up now you’ve got some bragging rights. So I mean, it was what it was. It was a great experience, that’s for sure. I enjoy speaking with a lot of passion about it. And quite frankly, that is like reliving the story of us speaking in the Super Bowl media
Ant Blair 7:46
Bro when you said that. I said I think I could fuck with this dude, because not only did you encourage them to do it, you participated with him. I was like I could get down with this guy.
Don Wettrick 7:59
I mean, it was, it was so much fun and it was a day we’ll always remember. And, and again, the serendipity was I’d watch 60 minutes the day before. No one knows who demora Smith is. Mm hmm. So I, you know, yeah, that whole thing was kind of fun. And it was always it’s also kind of a weird way to frame education sneaking into the Super Bowl. But you know, I was like, but when you have kids that are passionate about something, they’re gonna find a way in.
Ant Blair 8:27
That’s right. That’s right. Because there are they haven’t been jaded like an adult to where their creativity had been tamped down. They’re still on the fly creative. Hey, we could do this. We could do this. We could do this. You get a gang together. And it’s like, we do this. We do this. We do this. And the next thing you know, you’re done.
Don Wettrick 8:45
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Ant Blair 8:47
How did you get into this lane Don? How did you what was what was your life like, that caused you to become in your own words? batshit crazy what what happened? Yeah, you over the edge.
Don Wettrick 9:02
So glad. So glad you asked that. Two reasons. Probably one of my favorite books favorite quotes from my book is that my dad, ironically that my parents paid for all my education. And I just wanted to be like my dad, my dad was a teacher. But last thing I wanted to be was a teacher because that’s what my sister did is my dad and I’m like, I’m gonna do something different cuz I was the rebel family. So, um, all of a sudden, I woke up and I was working for a think tank, downtown Indiana, Indianapolis, and I was like, it’s just going, Okay. And really seriously, the downside is going to be like my dad. So I call him and I’m like, Hey, I’m not asking for money, because now I’m married. By the way. I’ve been working that place for two and a half years. And I said, I’m asking for money, but I’m going to go back and go to school and get my teaching degree. And so he said, You know, my dad never complains. He’s a positive man. And he says, You know, I don’t care if he says, I don’t care if you teach the next 20 years. Just don’t teach one year 20 times. Don’t be that teacher. So he says that, and that made me a different teacher. I’ll be honest with you. Number two, when this is my favorite thing is that my origin story to this weird way of thinking and honestly getting in good with people like Gary and Seth, amongst other people is that I watch I get a, an email that says, watch this. And ironically enough, it was Dan Pink’s TED Talk. Okay, and I watch it. And it was about how to how great companies motivated people, okay, and how they became innovative. And essentially, it was the unveiling of Google’s 20% time. So it was a it was a groundbreaking TED Talk. So me and my little add brain. I watched that during my lunch time, the next period, I showed my freshman English class. I’m like, What do you guys think of this? Heck, Riley may have been in that class. I, the years are starting to run together. But I made them watch it. And so I’m like, so I was like, What do you guys think? Like, what if I let you to work on whatever you wanted on a Friday? And then like, Really? I said, Yeah, I said it Cuz no one had done that. I’m like, there’s a mountain of things that everybody says that they should learn or, you know, like, I’ll get stopped on the street, you know, what they should teach in today’s schools usually has something to do with finance or your resumes or something. I’m like, okay, like, you can choose what you want to do on Friday. And so as fate would have it, I start this class based on that, like you can do what you wants called innovation and open source learning. I teach you how to be innovative, how to think for yourself, how to backwards design projects, how to project manage, and then how to digitally understand your digital brand. We took Twitter and LinkedIn very seriously.
Ant Blair 11:36
So you took this from your think tank days you took that info?
Yeah a little bit of my background cap Ant. I mean, I mean, I was I was an innovative guy, but not an innovative teacher yet, because this is where everything changed. And so I I just asked, Can I have this as a class? And so the interesting thing, and this is when all of a sudden I’m writing my second book on this is that all of a sudden, I got I got a key to the secret door. And that I called Dan pink. And I didn’t know who he was. I just thought he was some dude that does a TED talk. I didn’t know that he I mean, he’s big. like Oprah bought his book for every graduate of Stanford one year, right? So all of a sudden, oh, did not like Dan’s huge. And so I’m like, Hey, I watched your TED Talk. I’m gonna build a class around your TED Talk. He’s like, really? How can I help? So he starts Skyping into my room every now and then. So all of a sudden, I get a pass from him. So then all of a sudden, other people in the entrepreneurial realm, start looking at this class and going, where the hell was that class when I was 16? Hey, I want to talk to you about stuff. And then all of a sudden, then it became like, I think our next big break was like this guy named Tom bill you use well, because his show got made really famous because of Simon Sinek. Like the millennial problem, that thing got literally billions of views. Spoiler alert, I was on that show like two weeks before that, but Tom has his own show. And then he calls my class and my class just serves him up because he’s there. He was like throwing out some things and they’re like, no, it’s not like that. It’s like this and bell rings and he’s like, Are they gone? Yeah, cuz holy shit done. I thought you were full of shit. This is awesome. I’ve never heard kids talk like that before. And he says you need to come on my show. And I’m like, it’s like, Okay. on his show more people like Tim Ferriss, where people like Mark Cuban. Were people like Peter Diamandis and actually people that I didn’t know but I should know. So like. I doubt if you know who Peter Diamandis is, I don’t, you probably should. He’s a visionary. But like, all of a sudden, I started to fall into that pit, right? Of like learning who Tina Seelig was learning who is Tom and David Kelly of IDEO where I’m thought leaders thought leaders that actually were dealt Simon Sinek. Right. And then I had this key to the secret room because I’m like, Hey, I was on the same show as you were. Because Tom So Tom started inside quest. You know what quest bars are? quest, but Oh, yeah, quest bars. Yeah, right. Right. He started quest. So Tom started quest. Tom was fantastically wealthy. So he started bringing in these authors and thought leaders and a lot of times, neuroscientists that have written good books, and he was just having them talk to his employees. And after a while, they’re like, Well, shit, you should throw this up on YouTube, then it became a show. So, same thing happens to me. I start like asking people to my classroom. And then I started like having some like really cool people call in and then all of a sudden, one day, by the way to have Tim Ferriss. us out to an event is probably in the vicinity of $50,000. So for him to make a 45 minute keynote, it’s around 40 to $50,000. We have him for two hours. He’s talking to our class. They’re kicking it. They’re enjoying it. They’re like, I get to talk Tim Ferriss, and then one of my students turns around, she’s like, Are we recording this? Because we should really record these. And all sudden, the whole, then all of a sudden, the whole time bill you think of like, right, this is exactly how inside quest started. He did it for his people first and then and so I started a podcast a couple weeks later, and then all of a sudden, I had crenn Oh, you talk to Tom. Yeah. Then all of a sudden, I was on, you know, Gary Vee, and went out to New York and spend some time with Gary. And well, if you’re good enough for Gary, then you’re good enough for Seth and then Seth would so yes, it was weird because and then ironically enough, my favorite and I I mean, that’s not I’ll send you the link when we’re done because I actually is so I literally listened to it again this morning in my walk and researching my next book. My favorite person. My favorite guests is Jeff Hoffman. Jeff he co founded priceline.com Oh, yeah. And and he was talking about the difference between the life you have in life you want this is your ships not going to come in you have to swim out to get it. I’ve heard it. So he he all of a sudden decides, like actually his origin was he misses a flight. When he was young, I thought if there was a faster check in because this lady was slowed and made my flight Hinz vents and gets the patent on airport check in kiosks. That’s it. So even a lot of money then he co founded Priceline. And then here’s what’s dude. He is as middle aged and white as I am. Older, lower. You know, you know what he did? He’s like, people in the music industry look like they’re having fun. So he works with a guy named Chris Kirkpatrick and launches Nsync. Then he started working with a little band called Destiny’s Child. So like, like so he’s like, Oh yeah, I was hanging out with my friend Beyonce. Like, I’m like, really? He’s got this really cool neat relationship right now with Pitbull. So it’s weird because all sudden you’ll see him on Instagram, like some hanging out with Pitbull, and he’s actually got a business deal and he works a lot with Ray Lewis. So I mean, like, this guy is the most connected and And is he cashing in on it? No, he doesn’t have to, because he actually likes helping people. When you listen to this podcast, he talks about the fact that he takes basically this very large yacht full of college students. And they hit different areas around the globe in high poverty areas. And he said, get off the boat. You have two weeks to help people start start up sustainable businesses and we’re here to mentor you That’s the way he spends his time. He’s worked with the last four presidents Republican and Democrat doesn’t really care. He just wants to set up entrepreneurial ecosystems because he thinks that that’s a way to happiness and economic growth. So anyway, like those kind of people are now my like, and I’m not saying this in a bragging way. They’re not only my inspirations, the kind of my contemporaries
For sure man good for you Don. God damn what a story. That’s a great story.
Don Wettrick 18:28
I actually enjoyed reliving it. I’m sitting going damn, this is all just cool shit like Jocko Willink, Right?
Ant Blair 18:35
That motherfucker is something else man
Don Wettrick 18:39
Actually he was cool because he said no to the podcast unless I had students with me.
Ant Blair 18:44
That doesn’t surprise me.
Don Wettrick 18:46
So I had it in actually we got video of it. We had it in our weight room, because our weight board director was like really hardcore. And he didn’t layer by sitting straight rows, but we I started off podcasts and actually the questions came from the students and he was in there like you You better respect your teachers, you think that they’re there because they they, you know, are overpaid? No, they’re there to make you better people. So when you blow off their fucking instructions, let me tell you something and he was just, he was lighting them up and I was like, gosh, thank you.
That’s freakin great!
Ant Blair 19:15
Thank you, sir. Actually, he didn’t drop an F bomb because he’s military, but he’s like he was he was like, Hey, man, they’re not paid enough to put up with you. They’re there to make you better people and if you’re not a better person because of it, you’ve wasted their time but worst of all yours. And he was he was Jocko. I mean it was Jocko. Yeah, right. But what I love is is that I introduced a bunch of kids to somebody that they wouldn’t have known. They like the average 18 year old doesn’t follow the Jocko thing normally 20 somethings do they do they fall into that? Right? They all sudden start talking about Tim Ferriss, the average 17 year old doesn’t know who Tim Ferriss is or care. That’s right. These people all think differently. So my suits are thinking differently. And I think that that is and what I love about that whole story, it literally started with an email, watch this link to Dan Pink’s TED Talk. Everything else spilled out of that.
Isn’t that freakin fantastic how life can work like that, too?
Don Wettrick 20:21
Yeah, thank you for letting me relive that. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Ant Blair 20:25
Oh, your man. I’m my pleasure. I’m glad that you were able to relive it and tell that story. That is a great story. I was entertained and inspired by that story. Good, man. Good for you Don god damn. What now? Man? What are you working on? You said you’re working on a book now that you’re connected with what what does your future look like? What do you What are you trying to accomplish in 2020 2021?
Don Wettrick 20:51
Yeah, well, this is where it’s gonna get fun to hear. You’re like good luck kid. I run a nonprofit and maybe the worst time to ever run a nonprofit. So Here’s what happened back. So we started getting a lot of media attention,
bad. And the state of Indiana had this thing called a pitch it Believe it or not, Indiana has the biggest payout for a high school pitch competition.
Ant Blair 21:05
Don Wettrick 21:15
Indiana does. And so they said,
Ant Blair 21:20
Don Wettrick 21:21
And so like is called innovate within AI n being capitalized on the within, of course, right. And so they so in year one, they’re like a participate in it. Because we know that your kids are going to do good and they should, like the class was literally built around. It’s actually built around innovation. If you have something that’s innovative and the world wants it, it should be entrepreneurial. But we did really well that year. And they’re like, all right. Do you want to help out in any other capacity and like what comes after the competition, like well, we give the kids a check. I’m like, the worst idea ever. Like do you have any metrics? Do you have any plans for them? They’re like, no, like, we take a photo and you know, like, they’re never gonna do anything. And to be fair, there’s Shark Tank, high school events all over the country. And there’s no metrics. There’s no, it’s a feel good moment. And it’s a case in point. A lot of them are 500 bucks or 1000. Ours is 25,000. Damn, okay. Yes. So it’s 10,000 cash. 10,000 College anywhere or trade school has to be in Indiana. And then we go, we take them on a trip to another big city where they get to meet big people first year, it was New York City, and they got to spend the day with Seth Godin. And you know, john Ford of CNBC was cool. But in that time, they’re like, that’s, that was my year one. I took these kids I was like, and I think they knew what they’re doing. They’re like, Hey, we also want to show the nation that Indiana’s relevant so yeah, we like clicks and likes, like okay, I can do that. I’ve got a decent sized With social media presence, let’s do that. So we kind of parade our kids around New York City and ended up getting some Forbes coverage. And that was cool. So in year two, they’re like, Alright, what do you want to change? And I’m like, and by the way, I didn’t have jurisdiction yet to change the format on when the payout and make sure you hit KPIs like that. So in year two was pretty good. We went out to Austin, San Antonio, split two and two. And in this year, year three, the IDC, the Indian economic development court basically said, All right, you’re in charge. So to do that, there’s like, this is a lot more helpful if you’re a nonprofit. And so the IDC was gracious to give us a two year on ramp of funding and to be able to run this and it takes a decent sized budget if we want to sustain where we’re at. Because again, when I said a $25,000 first prize, that’s per kid, if it’s a team of three, yeah. Okay, so the 10,000 cash and the 10,000 College is not split. It’s per kid and then year’s winner, team of three. So Excellent. So we have nine regions that filter into one. And so you know, it’s literally we have nine different competitions all over the state of Indiana in early March. And then our state finals in early April, which obviously this year, we had to do it online, which ended up being better. Because we got a lot of views on that. And so I’m, I’m now that’s our, that’s our main, that’s our bottom of the funnel, our top of the funnel is, uh, they’re saying, Hey, could you start more classes like the animation class? I want? No. schools aren’t interested in what I’m selling. Like, schools are interested in and I get it, like their funding is based off of their attendance and istep scores.
Ant Blair 24:43
Don Wettrick 24:44
right. So like, is my class going to help I step maybe, but probably not. So I said, so they go, what do you think you should do? I said, Well, we should set up ecosystems in the sense that we can do events off school time, and I said, plus the entrepreneurial committee. If you treat something like school, the kids will treat it like school. So basically what we started doing is we started going into places that was close enough to hit up maybe two or three different high schools. And we do what we call the reverse pitch competitions. So once a month, we go to like a co working space are a cool tech hub. First 15 minutes or pizza and Pepsi By the way, we’ve never charged kids. And so like I go to North Well, I go to East I do this. Oh, I got my own podcast. Nice to meet you. Just the networking was fun. Then our guest comes in. And it’s a small deserving nonprofit think opioid crisis center, homeless shelter, whatever, but normally staff of less than 10 and they go Okay, here’s what we are. Here’s what we do. And here’s where we’re struggling. This is tonight’s problem. Kids listen to them. They see their slideshow, they get to ask a few questions. And then they go to teams of seven to 10 and they go off to separate rooms and they whiteboard for 35 minutes and what they experience and his purpose and passion And you have 35 minutes to figure this out. Then they start, but they’re off their phones. And they go, Oh, man, I got an uncle that does this. And I got it. And you should meet my aunt who knows this guy. And all sudden they Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then we teach them the art of how to pitch. And then the nonprofit, normally with jaws wide open goes down, because they didn’t have time to come up with ideas. No. And normally, it’s easy enough because a lot of it what it is, is marketing, awareness, helpfulness, knowing volunteers. Once that’s over, then they say thank you. Sometimes they’re given internships or whatever. But they experienced, you know, passion purpose for an evening. And so those kind of things. If students start going to those, they know how to make a really good pitch for a real Pitch Competition later on. They don’t give pitches like I’m going to start the second Amazon or I’m going to develop an app that ends hunger No, you don’t even know how to I mean, so kids that go to this know how to start scaling, they know how to build things. And that has made all the difference in the world.
Ant Blair 27:09
And that is what the future holds is developing that ecosystem. Absolutely. Let me ask you this. What if you have any final words of final thought of parting shot parting gift, whatever, what would you say to folks who are listening, something they can take away and take some action?
Don Wettrick 27:32
I’m gonna go deep on this one.
Ant Blair 27:33
Oh go deep brother go deep, deep deeper than Atlantis
Don Wettrick 27:37
So the most depressing thing is listening to people in their last days. Talk about regret. And I think a lot of times, first of all, hindsight is always 2020 But when people really think about it, your worst moments can be your finest. If you choose it to be. You can’t have low moments unless you have some risk in your life. And that’s when you really live. We started off this podcast by saying, there’s a lot of people that are alive but they’re not living. They go to the same job. They do the same thing. Hey, by the way, I’m not encouraging you to quit your job if you like it fine. But what are you doing? Are you helping others? Are you finding purpose? Or are you just doing the same damn thing? Are you are you binge watching Tiger King Good for you. You’re not living people that are trying to find purpose. People that are trying to find meaning and people that are putting themselves out there incurring some risks, or reaping a life worth living. They may not be the wealthiest, they’re happier. I hope by listening this pursues a life of happiness and have a little bit of risk and even On your down moments of risk, realize that this is going to be off funny. In about two years when I tell my kids about it, this is all gonna be funny because I realized that you don’t know good times and left us experience sad. You can always experience middle. But you’ll never understand highs unless you’ve been in lows. So in some crazy way, go out there and challenge yourself to be low for a bit. Then you’ll live.
Ant Blair 29:27
Well said God, man, god damn it. That was fantastic. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. Don, I’m going to tell you when you first spoke that I said to myself, that is the best parting thought that anyone has left and that’s no disrespect. Anyone who’s left parting thoughts.
Don Wettrick 29:47
Ant Blair 29:48
Man. I will tell you, two stories. And they’ll be super quick but they’re related to what you just said. My grandmother She lived to be 93 years old. And by when she got to be about 85, 86, I was on the phone with her. I was driving up to Indy pickup a guy that I knew back that I knew from the airport. I called her up. She’s bitching me, because I’m talking to her while I’m driving. She’s always like, Don’t call me when you’re driving. I’m talking to her. And I asked her, I said, you know, you’re getting towards the twilight of life. And I’ve been one to know the answer this question for a long time. And I feel like I can ask this. I said, How do you feel about being so close? I mean, I love for you to be around for another 20 years. The reality is, you’ll probably do 10 but I mean, you never know. And she paused and said, when is my time to go I’ll be ready because I live the full Life with no regrets. And I said, No, there’s there’s no way that’s true. I said, You’re always shooting with my mom and her senior daughters. You’re always fighting with them. If you’re with them. You’re telling me you’ll have no regrets, no matter what. I said you’ve been married three times, not one regret not one. I said, All right. That’s it was all worth it. So on the flip side of that, my former father in law, they gave him three days to live. he wound up living for 18 months after that, oh, but you know how that works. People come in and you know, they’re telling him you know, how much of an impact you’ve had on my life? Isn’t that the whole thing? So he goes past the three days he’s pissed on day four that he’s not dead yet. During this whole time, though, die, he kept saying I feel Like there’s something that I still need to do. And he kept saying that until the day he finally died. And I remember thinking, I don’t want i great, great man took care of his family hard worker. You went to church built built a church. I said, I don’t want to be like him. On my literal deathbed, yeah. thinking there’s something that I didn’t do enough. There’s something that I didn’t get done in not figuring out what it is. So I can’t imagine what it would be like to transition going through that transition process, whatever it is, I don’t know, for whatever it is. And then your last thoughts here in this world, this plane is whatever is what was that thing that I didn’t do and have that regret and then fade out, man. So when you said what you think said I was like goddamn that resonated with me. And that should resonate with anybody who heard your words, man cuz that’s, that is 100% real life.
Don Wettrick 33:11
Thank you. Yeah, it’s a motivator It’s a motivator, it’s for sure. And I think all about these things because yeah, all the mistakes that I’ve made have literally been the pivots in my life that I needed. So I was right. And I accepted it. And my last story I had a I had a student that is one of our more notorious we have him working a lot for us. Sorry, jack Russell.But he is. We had this day that I’ll never forget and teaching, he and I and another student. Sorry, jack Russell. No worries. Um, and he he was talking about I I knew that he didn’t have parents But I’d never so he’s like, I never told you a story said no. And he was, uh, yeah. And finally he said, you kind of went over the story on a sixth birthday. His mom and dad got into an argument. And I’m not going to over embellish it. But long story short, his dad ended up shooting his mom and then took a shot at him and, and and then missed and then took his life. And all sudden he got this blank look in his eye and he kind of his eyes got bigger and he said, Wait, I get it now. And I said what? And he says my grandma always said, the best thing that happened to me was my mother and father’s death, if I choose it to be my dad was never going to be a good guy. So it’s my choice. Yes, I get it now. And both jack and I we start crying. Like it’s one of the reasons why Robert and I are so close to this day, but all sudden he was like I’ve got a purpose. And and it’s interesting how it’s taken a neat leap. Yes, you should have on the show. He started doing content, start off he’s a black kid. And he kept hearing about all the problems and all the ills. So we started a podcast with jack who’s a white kid called solutions matter. Don’t tell me what’s wrong with the world. Tell me your solutions. And then now he’s got a YouTube channel and actually performs well on LinkedIn. Actually, he just hit 1000 subscribers. I mean, literally, just so we’re really proud of them. But I had he started off with is kind of at first like for young black men, but basically, how to dress and look professional and act professional on a budget. The kid taught himself how to sew. So he he tailors his own suit, so sometimes he’ll go and he’ll go to Goodwill, find a really nice, like suit and then tailor it himself. And so anyway, super proud of them. But same thing. He This is a kid who could have lots of regrets. This is A kid that could say, life dealt me, you know, a bad hand, whatever. Or he can say, No, I’ve got a mission and I’m gonna live it. And
Ant Blair 36:08
Don Wettrick 36:09
That’s what Robert did.
Ant Blair 36:10
That’s right. That’s a great story too. I’d love to talk to him. I think I saw him on your website. On the StartEdUp websit
Don Wettrick 36:16
Oh, no, it’s just probably Jamal. Such as in Tampa. Know, Robert, it’s funny cuz Robert does a lot of our video work and stuff. But I’ll connect you. He’s good dude, man.
Ant Blair 36:27
Don Wettrick 36:27
Oh, good, dude. He’s a good dude. It’s funny. So yeah, had I got kicked out of my own office. My daughter, ironically enough, has her own podcast. Like it starts at one. So if you’re like, well just go. So I got kicked out of my home, my own office. So man, I sincerely appreciate you having me on your show, man. And I get back to the south side and you’re a beer expert. So we’ll have to have a pint.
Ant Blair 36:53
I mean, we could probably have a couple pints I’m sure I look forward to that. That I mean, I guess we’re gonna have to wait and see how this whole thing shakes out? But
Don Wettrick 37:02
yeah, yeah, we’ll get back to it.
Ant Blair 37:05
Yeah, I hope so, man. I hope so